Comments on: Old World Instances Into Northrend Dungeons And Heroics http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/ World of Warcraft Gold, Tips, Tricks, and Discussion Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:05:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: darthmec http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15894 darthmec Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:56 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15894 totally agree. low level instance could be fun, but leveling is too slow, waiting is too long, and talents change way too often. totally agree.
low level instance could be fun, but leveling is too slow, waiting is too long, and talents change way too often.

]]> By: darthmec http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15893 darthmec Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:51:05 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15893 ur right, it sucks. Most DK are not good tanks, but dps is fine, and they are fun to play. i guess they made then too easy to level, not versatile enough. ur right, it sucks. Most DK are not good tanks, but dps is fine, and they are fun to play. i guess they made then too easy to level, not versatile enough.

]]> By: Justin http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15217 Justin Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:37:45 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15217 I agree with what you've stated with regards to the changes and upgrades. Just when I get things figured out a patch comes out totally negating the cool roatation or stats I've added to my toon. Then you have to try again to research the best talent trees, spell patterns, shot rotations etc. The thing that really annoys me is that when I go to research these things there are so many outdated suggestions that after you respec you realize that you've hit things wrong even though you were thoroughly convinced you had it all figured out... I agree with what you’ve stated with regards to the changes and upgrades. Just when I get things figured out a patch comes out totally negating the cool roatation or stats I’ve added to my toon. Then you have to try again to research the best talent trees, spell patterns, shot rotations etc. The thing that really annoys me is that when I go to research these things there are so many outdated suggestions that after you respec you realize that you’ve hit things wrong even though you were thoroughly convinced you had it all figured out…

]]> By: Cooter http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15125 Cooter Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:44:19 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15125 No one wants to run with a Death Knight. The toons in WoW are racist against the first Heroic class and I love them. My only lvl 80. So far anyway. Kinda sucks. No one wants to run with a Death Knight. The toons in WoW are racist against the first Heroic class and I love them. My only lvl 80. So far anyway. Kinda sucks.

]]> By: Raybeez http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15104 Raybeez Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:12:25 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15104 I don't know about your servers but my lvl 31 Hunter has been diying to do Gnomer for the Trip pants as quest reward.I have spent roughly 15 Hrs or more waiting on the LFG.You say peeps need to learn how to do lowbie instances.I have been saying that before TBC came out.Never fails me to see articles trying to revive the old world instances.I can say or bet that 80-90% of WOTLK players have not done any old school raids.MC,AQ etc etc.Maybe at lvl 80 they did them but where is the learning curve there?Now Blizzard has brought this crap called Heirlooms,How the hell do people learn a game when you got major armour and weapons when you start?And the RAF(recruit a friend)crap dont help either.I rather do it the old school way and live and learn.So what if it takes 6-7 days to reach level 80.At least I have FUN.The worst part of doing old instances is you get a good looking group and some knob brings in the 80 that buggers your lvling and learning.Drops?Who cares,like DYS says you outgrow 'em 4-5 lvls.I try to hit an old instance every say 10 levels.All I'm trying to say is there is no way nowadays that old world instances are gonna be hopping.All I see in the need for heroic runs and Naxx runs.I am sick of Naxx hence the reason for rerolling.Anyways thats my $.02. I don’t know about your servers but my lvl 31 Hunter has been diying to do Gnomer for the Trip pants as quest reward.I have spent roughly 15 Hrs or more waiting on the LFG.You say peeps need to learn how to do lowbie instances.I have been saying that before TBC came out.Never fails me to see articles trying to revive the old world instances.I can say or bet that 80-90% of WOTLK players have not done any old school raids.MC,AQ etc etc.Maybe at lvl 80 they did them but where is the learning curve there?Now Blizzard has brought this crap called Heirlooms,How the hell do people learn a game when you got major armour and weapons when you start?And the RAF(recruit a friend)crap dont help either.I rather do it the old school way and live and learn.So what if it takes 6-7 days to reach level 80.At least I have FUN.The worst part of doing old instances is you get a good looking group and some knob brings in the 80 that buggers your lvling and learning.Drops?Who cares,like DYS says you outgrow ‘em 4-5 lvls.I try to hit an old instance every say 10 levels.All I’m trying to say is there is no way nowadays that old world instances are gonna be hopping.All I see in the need for heroic runs and Naxx runs.I am sick of Naxx hence the reason for rerolling.Anyways thats my $.02.

]]> By: David http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15100 David Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:04:07 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15100 Sometimes once you hit the higher levels (70-80) it's always nice to go back and give some payback :twisted: Sometimes once you hit the higher levels (70-80) it’s always nice to go back and give some payback :twisted:

]]> By: Hagu http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15095 Hagu Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:04:49 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15095 good advice, but I just did things differently with some of my 80s not doing any on-level instances. 1) you outgrow any gear so much faster these days and with continued nerfs, BoAs and mounts, it is even faster, so any instance gear will be soon gone. and BoA shoulders and weapons (soon chest) mean 2 slots you dont have to worry about. And with RAF it is even quicker - 2 levels for turning in Runecloth? 2) instances can be quicker XP if everything goes well. going all the way to SM/ST to help summon for a group that falls apart can waste all the gains over questing/grinding 3) Blizzard, unfortunately goes to great lengths to devalue 1-79. If your bread-and-butter talents arrive at 80 (e.g. beacon of light and SS) then how relevant is knowing how to heal at 37 or 73? might it actually be a detriment to learning your level 80 skills as you will have techniques to unlearn. Besides, at least for my pally and lock at 80, I keep having to respec and do new rotations, how relevant are the the skills and techniques of a month or two ago. (/sigh but it is what it is) And if you for some reason dont choose to dual spec, then you may be leveling shadow, ele, ret but not plan to be that at 80. I think I have encountered crowd control twice in northrend. TLDR: how relevant are experiences of last month's no longer used spells and talent build 4) I very rarely see anyone run non-heroic instances. And since with crafted gear ( spellshock ring & neck, darkmoon cards, titansteel, wispcloak,,) you can be Naxx-Ready the same day you hit 80. But the world changes in 3.2 5) I did not even understand the BG/dueling; when would those skills ever help a PvEer (actual question not trying to be rude. In fact, not trying to be rude with any comment. My opinion is that WoW would be a better game if your advice were even more relevant. In this rush to 80 to play egos and politics for raids/arenas, I am not sure it is the optimal way or the fastest way, at least for some of us. good advice, but I just did things differently with some of my 80s not doing any on-level instances.
1) you outgrow any gear so much faster these days and with continued nerfs, BoAs and mounts, it is even faster, so any instance gear will be soon gone. and BoA shoulders and weapons (soon chest) mean 2 slots you dont have to worry about. And with RAF it is even quicker – 2 levels for turning in Runecloth?
2) instances can be quicker XP if everything goes well. going all the way to SM/ST to help summon for a group that falls apart can waste all the gains over questing/grinding
3) Blizzard, unfortunately goes to great lengths to devalue 1-79. If your bread-and-butter talents arrive at 80 (e.g. beacon of light and SS) then how relevant is knowing how to heal at 37 or 73? might it actually be a detriment to learning your level 80 skills as you will have techniques to unlearn. Besides, at least for my pally and lock at 80, I keep having to respec and do new rotations, how relevant are the the skills and techniques of a month or two ago. (/sigh but it is what it is) And if you for some reason dont choose to dual spec, then you may be leveling shadow, ele, ret but not plan to be that at 80. I think I have encountered crowd control twice in northrend. TLDR: how relevant are experiences of last month’s no longer used spells and talent build
4) I very rarely see anyone run non-heroic instances. And since with crafted gear ( spellshock ring & neck, darkmoon cards, titansteel, wispcloak,,) you can be Naxx-Ready the same day you hit 80. But the world changes in 3.2
5) I did not even understand the BG/dueling; when would those skills ever help a PvEer (actual question not trying to be rude. In fact, not trying to be rude with any comment. My opinion is that WoW would be a better game if your advice were even more relevant. In this rush to 80 to play egos and politics for raids/arenas, I am not sure it is the optimal way or the fastest way, at least for some of us.

]]> By: Yolana http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15084 Yolana Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:15:40 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15084 Please recommend a good instance map addon. I have used Atlas and Alpha map but don't like them or need some help setting up a good way to view them. It would help in knocking down low level instance achievements too! Please recommend a good instance map addon. I have used Atlas and Alpha map but don’t like them or need some help setting up a good way to view them. It would help in knocking down low level instance achievements too!

]]> By: Hunjo http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15072 Hunjo Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:21:14 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15072 I'd love to do these low level instances, but the reality is you either have to be ran through with a high level, or spend hours looking for a group. Yes they are fun and challenging, but you level so quickly now that any gear rewards are quickly outgrown. I've gotten several characters to level 80 using only drop items or quest rewards since things became so much quicker. While I think a heroic dead mines would be awesome (I wonder how many wipes you'd have in the foundry if the goblins were all 85 elites?), there needs to be more incentive for lower level characters to run the instances designed for them. Perhaps a badge system that provides upgradable items that would help a newly minted level 80 start those raid runs without laughable drop gear, not anything epic, but a something. Right now, if you pay attention to the reward per time spent, running instances just isn't worth the time. Especially if you are like this blog and running full force to 80. All that said, My brother, wife and I are about to start brand spanking new characters to level up together.... all Druids. As such we will do every instance we possibly can, just for the fun of it. We won't get to level 80 for a long long time doing it this way (maybe with a dedicated healer and tank it will be a big easier to find groups), but it's a way to play. I guess. I’d love to do these low level instances, but the reality is you either have to be ran through with a high level, or spend hours looking for a group. Yes they are fun and challenging, but you level so quickly now that any gear rewards are quickly outgrown. I’ve gotten several characters to level 80 using only drop items or quest rewards since things became so much quicker.

While I think a heroic dead mines would be awesome (I wonder how many wipes you’d have in the foundry if the goblins were all 85 elites?), there needs to be more incentive for lower level characters to run the instances designed for them. Perhaps a badge system that provides upgradable items that would help a newly minted level 80 start those raid runs without laughable drop gear, not anything epic, but a something. Right now, if you pay attention to the reward per time spent, running instances just isn’t worth the time. Especially if you are like this blog and running full force to 80.

All that said, My brother, wife and I are about to start brand spanking new characters to level up together…. all Druids. As such we will do every instance we possibly can, just for the fun of it. We won’t get to level 80 for a long long time doing it this way (maybe with a dedicated healer and tank it will be a big easier to find groups), but it’s a way to play. I guess.

]]> By: brewer http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/07/20/old-world-instances-into-northrend-dungeons-and-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-15062 brewer Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:43:25 +0000 http://dominateyourserver.com/?p=1565#comment-15062 Blizz should make all instances have heroic mode. could you amagine lvl 80 heroic dead mines lol? Blizz should make all instances have heroic mode. could you amagine lvl 80 heroic dead mines lol?

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