Old World Instances Into Northrend Dungeons And Heroics
Posted on July 20th, 2009 by Lawbringer under Build, Faster Leveling, General Tips, Grinding, Instances, Leveling, Low Level, PVE, Power Leveling, Powerleveling, World of Warcraft, WotLKInstances are brilliant, and I love them. I know they are not the most popular thing for mid-level characters, and some people avoid them like nuts, but they are only hurting themselves. Once you get to level 80, that’s about all that’s left besides serious PVP, so you better start now enjoying yourself.
Instances are important because they teach you how to play as a member of a team. The best gear always drops in instances (and past that – raids), and when it boils down to it, the experience is excellent if you are there at the right levels. Now, I understand that it can be tough to find a good group, and we’ll discuss that a little later in an article on guilds, but you should really just suck it up and do them all.
Starting at level 20 I’ll run through the deadmines, Stockades and Blackfathom Deeps on all my alliance toons. Those three runs are good for usually 4-6 levels and 4 or five blue gear items. Since my guild’s power players all have alts, we go do runs like that a few times a week so they are super fast. We’ll usually get through all three of those runs in about 4 hours. You could probably level almost as fast going it solo in Ashenvale at that level, but you sure wouldn’t get the gear.
But the real reason to do instances is the same reason you simply must spend some time in battlegrounds and dueling. If you don’t ever do them, you won’t be any good at them when you really need to be.
You may be able to pull mobs great in the wild when you need to separate one or two from a congested area, but that won’t work in an instance a lot of the time. Normally in an instance if you pull one you’re going to get them all (because the mobs are linked). So you are forced to work as a team where a mage sheeps right after a rogue saps, and then you pull whatever is left. If your hunter is any good they can trap another one and now your tank and healer only have to worry about 1 poor little dead elite walking with the fury of a rogue coming in from behind and a nice fat fireball in his face, oh – and a ravager tearing his eyes out.
You can really crush through an instance run with a good team. Some difficult mobs at low levels (assuming you don’t have a great group) include the Princess in Maraudon – I hate that woman – and Archaedes in Uldamann. In WotLK Halls of Stone can be a bear along with The Occulus, but a little practice on those and it should be no sweat. For some reason those guys at that level can be really tough to handle. But it is a very satisfying feeling when they hit the ground with a big thud.
Instance tips to live by.
- Spend some time as a lowbie toon making a few friends and playing together as much as possible. If you can build a decent friends list, you can normally have a party of three before you ever launch the “Looking for Group” function.
- Always try to play in a balanced group. Instances are much harder with more than one kind of any particular class – the possible exception to this being two druids or paladins where one is a healer and the other a tank. (if the players are very experienced this doesn’t matter nearly as much until Northrend)
- If things are not going well, don’t flame people, just ride it out: BE NICE! I have had groups where one guy quit on the run; we picked up another pretty easy because we already had 4, and for some reason it went twice as fast with a non-complainer.
- Don’t get in a tizzy over who wins loot drops. You’re likely going to replace the item in a few levels anyway. So it’s not worth getting upset about. It’s a GAME folks.
- Try to balance your play time to include at least 25% of your time in instances. This will give you the very best gear when you are solo, and plenty of time to refine your play style and talent build.
- Play with authority and practice the really hard moves; doing this will ensure that by the time you get to heroic level dungeons, you’re not upsetting runs by playing poorly. Lower level instances are the very best place to practice using multiple skills on tough mobs.
- Have fun. IT’s A GAME!
Probably not anything you haven’t heard before; no real mind-blowing information here. But you might have needed a little kick in the pants to get in there and do every instance in the game as you level up your next toon. And if you skip all this stuff you’ll never know how much fun the whole thing really is. For years the old world instances were all that people had to play through, and the game still grew. There’s a lot of good content you will miss if you just rush through to level 80 before you start hitting the dungeons.
With Patch 3.2, you’ll almost be forced to do the Daily dungeon quests. You certainly won’t want to miss out on the extra emblems of Triumph. Plus, you’ll also be getting Emblems of Conquest from all the other Instance and Raid bosses, so you can end up with some of the very best gear available for doing a few heroics a day. Get used to it now and have fun with it when it comes. And, as always, Dominate.

















Good advice. I left my guild at around 70, and now that I am 80 I have crappy gear and no experience in those intermediate instances. Finally have a new guild and can try to catch up!
I did not do very many instances on my hunter on the way to 80. Once he got to 80 there is really nothing but raiding, heroics, dailies, or pvp to do. Now that I am working on a Shaman I have tried to hit as many instances as possible as I leveled him and it has made a huge difference in the enjoyment of the game for me. This is great advice.
Thanks
I will never do Sunken Temple again. Unless they provide me dramamine (anti nausea medication). Even BFD is better. (though as a Moonkin, I get clausterphobic there). Too bad all the major classes have a quest there. I guess I’ll do it . . . but not for another 3 months.
As an aside, I remember soloing the WC for the first time as a bear druid, I was so proud of myself! Thorns ftw.
The loot is outgrown too quickly, but the low-lvl instances are fun. Although I never want to do Maraudon again.
also if you have Refer a Friend and u get boosted/groups for dungeons you can level up just by doing the dungeons and the quests which go to them, i did RFC, WC, SFK with all the quests and got 10 levels, we were being boosted so we did all 3 runs in 2 hours. Very useful for leveling fast.
Blizz should make all instances have heroic mode. could you amagine lvl 80 heroic dead mines lol?
I’d love to do these low level instances, but the reality is you either have to be ran through with a high level, or spend hours looking for a group. Yes they are fun and challenging, but you level so quickly now that any gear rewards are quickly outgrown. I’ve gotten several characters to level 80 using only drop items or quest rewards since things became so much quicker.
While I think a heroic dead mines would be awesome (I wonder how many wipes you’d have in the foundry if the goblins were all 85 elites?), there needs to be more incentive for lower level characters to run the instances designed for them. Perhaps a badge system that provides upgradable items that would help a newly minted level 80 start those raid runs without laughable drop gear, not anything epic, but a something. Right now, if you pay attention to the reward per time spent, running instances just isn’t worth the time. Especially if you are like this blog and running full force to 80.
All that said, My brother, wife and I are about to start brand spanking new characters to level up together…. all Druids. As such we will do every instance we possibly can, just for the fun of it. We won’t get to level 80 for a long long time doing it this way (maybe with a dedicated healer and tank it will be a big easier to find groups), but it’s a way to play. I guess.
Please recommend a good instance map addon. I have used Atlas and Alpha map but don’t like them or need some help setting up a good way to view them. It would help in knocking down low level instance achievements too!
good advice, but I just did things differently with some of my 80s not doing any on-level instances.
1) you outgrow any gear so much faster these days and with continued nerfs, BoAs and mounts, it is even faster, so any instance gear will be soon gone. and BoA shoulders and weapons (soon chest) mean 2 slots you dont have to worry about. And with RAF it is even quicker – 2 levels for turning in Runecloth?
2) instances can be quicker XP if everything goes well. going all the way to SM/ST to help summon for a group that falls apart can waste all the gains over questing/grinding
3) Blizzard, unfortunately goes to great lengths to devalue 1-79. If your bread-and-butter talents arrive at 80 (e.g. beacon of light and SS) then how relevant is knowing how to heal at 37 or 73? might it actually be a detriment to learning your level 80 skills as you will have techniques to unlearn. Besides, at least for my pally and lock at 80, I keep having to respec and do new rotations, how relevant are the the skills and techniques of a month or two ago. (/sigh but it is what it is) And if you for some reason dont choose to dual spec, then you may be leveling shadow, ele, ret but not plan to be that at 80. I think I have encountered crowd control twice in northrend. TLDR: how relevant are experiences of last month’s no longer used spells and talent build
4) I very rarely see anyone run non-heroic instances. And since with crafted gear ( spellshock ring & neck, darkmoon cards, titansteel, wispcloak,,) you can be Naxx-Ready the same day you hit 80. But the world changes in 3.2
5) I did not even understand the BG/dueling; when would those skills ever help a PvEer (actual question not trying to be rude. In fact, not trying to be rude with any comment. My opinion is that WoW would be a better game if your advice were even more relevant. In this rush to 80 to play egos and politics for raids/arenas, I am not sure it is the optimal way or the fastest way, at least for some of us.
I agree with what you’ve stated with regards to the changes and upgrades. Just when I get things figured out a patch comes out totally negating the cool roatation or stats I’ve added to my toon. Then you have to try again to research the best talent trees, spell patterns, shot rotations etc. The thing that really annoys me is that when I go to research these things there are so many outdated suggestions that after you respec you realize that you’ve hit things wrong even though you were thoroughly convinced you had it all figured out…
totally agree.
low level instance could be fun, but leveling is too slow, waiting is too long, and talents change way too often.
Sometimes once you hit the higher levels (70-80) it’s always nice to go back and give some payback
I don’t know about your servers but my lvl 31 Hunter has been diying to do Gnomer for the Trip pants as quest reward.I have spent roughly 15 Hrs or more waiting on the LFG.You say peeps need to learn how to do lowbie instances.I have been saying that before TBC came out.Never fails me to see articles trying to revive the old world instances.I can say or bet that 80-90% of WOTLK players have not done any old school raids.MC,AQ etc etc.Maybe at lvl 80 they did them but where is the learning curve there?Now Blizzard has brought this crap called Heirlooms,How the hell do people learn a game when you got major armour and weapons when you start?And the RAF(recruit a friend)crap dont help either.I rather do it the old school way and live and learn.So what if it takes 6-7 days to reach level 80.At least I have FUN.The worst part of doing old instances is you get a good looking group and some knob brings in the 80 that buggers your lvling and learning.Drops?Who cares,like DYS says you outgrow ‘em 4-5 lvls.I try to hit an old instance every say 10 levels.All I’m trying to say is there is no way nowadays that old world instances are gonna be hopping.All I see in the need for heroic runs and Naxx runs.I am sick of Naxx hence the reason for rerolling.Anyways thats my $.02.
No one wants to run with a Death Knight. The toons in WoW are racist against the first Heroic class and I love them. My only lvl 80. So far anyway. Kinda sucks.
ur right, it sucks. Most DK are not good tanks, but dps is fine, and they are fun to play. i guess they made then too easy to level, not versatile enough.