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	<title>Comments on: Paladin Tank Basics For WotLK</title>
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		<title>By: Pritia</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/29/paladin-tank-basics-for-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-15323</link>
		<dc:creator>Pritia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must respectfully disagree with your talent setup. It seems you&#039;ve sacrificed Crit chance (which can very well be a great source of threat) for Divine Sacrifice (Which is great for 5-mans, but not really a raid thing) and PoJ. I personally go for the 0/53/18 Crusade build. It works wonders for my threat.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZA0xA0uMusIufdxf0x0c:L0pmz
That&#039;s the build i&#039;m referring to... some people switch divinity out for reckoning but that&#039;s just stupid to do as your avoidance gets higher, less damage hits you thus you don&#039;t get procs.
The glyphs are the ones I have on my tank. I go for Reduced Incoming Damage and heightened outbound damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must respectfully disagree with your talent setup. It seems you&#8217;ve sacrificed Crit chance (which can very well be a great source of threat) for Divine Sacrifice (Which is great for 5-mans, but not really a raid thing) and PoJ. I personally go for the 0/53/18 Crusade build. It works wonders for my threat.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZA0xA0uMusIufdxf0x0c:L0pmz">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZA0xA0uMusIufdxf0&#215;0c:L0pmz</a><br />
That&#8217;s the build i&#8217;m referring to&#8230; some people switch divinity out for reckoning but that&#8217;s just stupid to do as your avoidance gets higher, less damage hits you thus you don&#8217;t get procs.<br />
The glyphs are the ones I have on my tank. I go for Reduced Incoming Damage and heightened outbound damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Aemaeth ( dominate's raid leader )</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aemaeth ( dominate's raid leader )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to oolong, yes its possible to reset a bosses swing timer, not parry chance, bosses have a standard 16 or 18 or something along those lines chance to parry an attack so each time they do that it will reset its swing timer resulting in a faster returning attack after your swing, however with a bit of expertise and gear to make up for this its really not all that big a deal, more trivial than anything. I was reading somewhere rather that its nearly impossible to have enough expertise with current equipment to negate this mechanic entirely and more things you get specifically for expertise you&#039;re generally going to be losing other stats e.g. dodge / parry / block / block value / stamina / etc. so its not something to lose sleep over. A good healer and a well geared tank ( e.g. hayden and agorg ) will probably not even realize this is happening ( as confirmed by agorg not hearing of this mechanic as of yet ).

-Zmack-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to oolong, yes its possible to reset a bosses swing timer, not parry chance, bosses have a standard 16 or 18 or something along those lines chance to parry an attack so each time they do that it will reset its swing timer resulting in a faster returning attack after your swing, however with a bit of expertise and gear to make up for this its really not all that big a deal, more trivial than anything. I was reading somewhere rather that its nearly impossible to have enough expertise with current equipment to negate this mechanic entirely and more things you get specifically for expertise you&#8217;re generally going to be losing other stats e.g. dodge / parry / block / block value / stamina / etc. so its not something to lose sleep over. A good healer and a well geared tank ( e.g. hayden and agorg ) will probably not even realize this is happening ( as confirmed by agorg not hearing of this mechanic as of yet ).</p>
<p>-Zmack-</p>
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		<title>By: Haydenc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haydenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Agorg

As one who has been responsible for keeping you alive on many occasions I can vouch that we indeed suffered per your growing pains  :lol:   

All kidding aside  you have become a very good tank and this is great advice for all tanks especially  new tanks.


Haydenc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Agorg</p>
<p>As one who has been responsible for keeping you alive on many occasions I can vouch that we indeed suffered per your growing pains  <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<p>All kidding aside  you have become a very good tank and this is great advice for all tanks especially  new tanks.</p>
<p>Haydenc</p>
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		<title>By: Prot Paladin Tank Combat Ratings &#187; Dominate Your Server</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prot Paladin Tank Combat Ratings &#187; Dominate Your Server</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] time we covered the basics and the Talent build. Now let&#8217;s go over the Combat Ratings and what they mean to you as a Paladin Tank and help [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Agorg</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/29/paladin-tank-basics-for-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-14314</link>
		<dc:creator>Agorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t heard that one yet, but it&#039;s possible. I just avoided that talent for other reasons: (See one of my replies about this 4 posts up) 

Melee is a smaller portion of my DPS (and threat) 
Melee swings don&#039;t get Righteous Fury Bonus (no threat) 
If you do have 5 extra points to swing around the paper math tells me Conviction is better (depends on your weapon but ... ) 
5% passive crit on everything vs. 1 extra white swing every other time probably on an internal cooldown ... 

Just my 2 cents :) 

P.S I don&#039;t claim to know everything ... I just happen to have an opinion on it  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t heard that one yet, but it&#8217;s possible. I just avoided that talent for other reasons: (See one of my replies about this 4 posts up) </p>
<p>Melee is a smaller portion of my DPS (and threat)<br />
Melee swings don&#8217;t get Righteous Fury Bonus (no threat)<br />
If you do have 5 extra points to swing around the paper math tells me Conviction is better (depends on your weapon but &#8230; )<br />
5% passive crit on everything vs. 1 extra white swing every other time probably on an internal cooldown &#8230; </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>P.S I don&#8217;t claim to know everything &#8230; I just happen to have an opinion on it  <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oolong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oolong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the article was great! I&#039;ve been leveling my future tankadin lately and have been absorbing all the info I can that will help me to improve. This article was a great help and I can&#039;t wait until the next ones :D

One thing about some of the comments though, I thought that taking the talent Reckoning was a bad idea because if you attack more often then you can reset the boss&#039;s parry chance and thus have more damage applied onto you by doing so? Thus putting not only you, but the whole group in greater danger. That&#039;s just one of the other things I&#039;ve glimpsed upon but it sounds feasible, is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the article was great! I&#8217;ve been leveling my future tankadin lately and have been absorbing all the info I can that will help me to improve. This article was a great help and I can&#8217;t wait until the next ones <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing about some of the comments though, I thought that taking the talent Reckoning was a bad idea because if you attack more often then you can reset the boss&#8217;s parry chance and thus have more damage applied onto you by doing so? Thus putting not only you, but the whole group in greater danger. That&#8217;s just one of the other things I&#8217;ve glimpsed upon but it sounds feasible, is that true?</p>
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		<title>By: Holygyver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holygyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow i truly injoied this artical! I never thought pally tanking could sound so fun! Lots of great info for newb tanks like myself. i recently hit 70 with my holy pally, can u offer any healing tips at that lvl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow i truly injoied this artical! I never thought pally tanking could sound so fun! Lots of great info for newb tanks like myself. i recently hit 70 with my holy pally, can u offer any healing tips at that lvl?</p>
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		<title>By: Agorg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You beat me to a subsequent article but this is as good a place to debate this point as any :) 

I am in the middle of trying out some variations in this spec. For beginners this is highly recommended but as gear gets better you can afford to move some points around to get more DPS at the expense of something else. 

I was never fond of Reckoning because White swings don&#039;t really count for much and they don&#039;t benefit from Righteous Fury (Holy Spells only) but I wanted to put some numbers down so here goes (rough #s)

Reckoning (5/5) gives a 10% chance to generate +4 weapon swings ( = 40% chance of +1 weapon swing)
Avg Damage from white swings ~400 every 1.7 sec (weapon speed)  = 235 DPS 
Crit = 800 but only 12.5 % of the time (100 damage /1.7 sec) = 58 DPS
235 + 58 = 293 and that only happens 40% of the time (293 *0.4) 
=&gt; Reckoning  roughly translates to 117 DPS increase. with my current gear. 

Let&#039;s take Conviction instead (which is what I&#039;m trying out now) 
+5% crit on every spell and ability 
I do roughly 1600-1800 DPS with the same gear as the above example. 
Crit = 3200-3600 * 5% = 160-180 raw DPS increase. I know that this includes crit and you can&#039;t do math like this and it&#039;s not exact but I want to get a ball park figure ... 

So without having tried Reckoning in a real scenario the rough paper math tells me that Conviction is 43% better (~160 &gt; 117 ) especially since the 117 doesn&#039;t scale with Righteous Fury for threat where as Conviction does (Most of a paladin&#039;s DPS is Holy ... except for melee swings)

If I were to get my hands on a more powerful weapon however this might change and tip the scales but for now (Unless my math is wrong) I&#039;ll stick with Conviction over Reckoning as an alternative to this spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You beat me to a subsequent article but this is as good a place to debate this point as any <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I am in the middle of trying out some variations in this spec. For beginners this is highly recommended but as gear gets better you can afford to move some points around to get more DPS at the expense of something else. </p>
<p>I was never fond of Reckoning because White swings don&#8217;t really count for much and they don&#8217;t benefit from Righteous Fury (Holy Spells only) but I wanted to put some numbers down so here goes (rough #s)</p>
<p>Reckoning (5/5) gives a 10% chance to generate +4 weapon swings ( = 40% chance of +1 weapon swing)<br />
Avg Damage from white swings ~400 every 1.7 sec (weapon speed)  = 235 DPS<br />
Crit = 800 but only 12.5 % of the time (100 damage /1.7 sec) = 58 DPS<br />
235 + 58 = 293 and that only happens 40% of the time (293 *0.4)<br />
=&gt; Reckoning  roughly translates to 117 DPS increase. with my current gear. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take Conviction instead (which is what I&#8217;m trying out now)<br />
+5% crit on every spell and ability<br />
I do roughly 1600-1800 DPS with the same gear as the above example.<br />
Crit = 3200-3600 * 5% = 160-180 raw DPS increase. I know that this includes crit and you can&#8217;t do math like this and it&#8217;s not exact but I want to get a ball park figure &#8230; </p>
<p>So without having tried Reckoning in a real scenario the rough paper math tells me that Conviction is 43% better (~160 &gt; 117 ) especially since the 117 doesn&#8217;t scale with Righteous Fury for threat where as Conviction does (Most of a paladin&#8217;s DPS is Holy &#8230; except for melee swings)</p>
<p>If I were to get my hands on a more powerful weapon however this might change and tip the scales but for now (Unless my math is wrong) I&#8217;ll stick with Conviction over Reckoning as an alternative to this spec.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t tank and don&#039;t want to but I enjoyed the article. Nice work, Agorg. Hope to read more articles from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t tank and don&#8217;t want to but I enjoyed the article. Nice work, Agorg. Hope to read more articles from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: James M</title>
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		<dc:creator>James M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with most of the basics on how to tank, good overall post.

Now time to nitpick a little bit.  I like 5/5 Reckoning as it adds a ton of extra damage and threat, and also the new talent Divine Sacrifice and its improved form.  Now that only one sacred shield can be in existence per Paladin, it helps in raids if your pally healer can put it on a different tank and you can throw a super one on yourself.  Also in raid situations, i have been asked to bubble/Divine sacrifice to help raid damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with most of the basics on how to tank, good overall post.</p>
<p>Now time to nitpick a little bit.  I like 5/5 Reckoning as it adds a ton of extra damage and threat, and also the new talent Divine Sacrifice and its improved form.  Now that only one sacred shield can be in existence per Paladin, it helps in raids if your pally healer can put it on a different tank and you can throw a super one on yourself.  Also in raid situations, i have been asked to bubble/Divine sacrifice to help raid damage.</p>
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