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		<title>By: online income system</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-19536</link>
		<dc:creator>online income system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God is on everyone&#039;s side </description>
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		<title>By: Guverner</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12848</link>
		<dc:creator>Guverner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>super facepalm

spend long enough killing level 1 mobs and you could buy an epic flyer too.

Guys farming level 1 mobs DOES make money!</description>
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<p>spend long enough killing level 1 mobs and you could buy an epic flyer too.</p>
<p>Guys farming level 1 mobs DOES make money!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12808</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 podcast + 2 written articles = 3 posts?</description>
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		<title>By: Anhydrous</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12766</link>
		<dc:creator>Anhydrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to clear something up first - I am in no way stating that JC is the be-all end-all moneymaker. Profit did not even figure into my decision to take it up; sexy boatloads of +spellpower did. My issue with your original article is that you are completely misinforming your readers as to the methods that jewelcrafters use to make profits. (And yes, disenchanting DOES make up a very large portion of my take, but I don&#039;t see how that is relevant. Could I still make money with disenchanting by itself? Undoubtedly, but my current system is fast, easy, and has a profit margin that I am completely comfortable with.)

&lt;I&gt;And why not turn your junk gems into Dream Shards?  Nothing wrong with turning vendor trash into something in high demand.  Besides, it’s a bigger profit margin than selling the blue gems overall.&lt;/I&gt;

Nothing that JC can make that turns into Dream Shards will turn a profit. The value of the materials that go into those items, either from selling them outright or crafting them into a dust-producing item, is always more than the price of a Dream Shard.

&lt;I&gt;You also said you were selling scarlet rubies you find. That means you are farming.&lt;/I&gt;

You&#039;re putting words in my mouth. I FIND these rubies when I prospect the saronite ore I buy for cheap. The ore that I make more on from prospecting, jewelcrafting, and DEing then I would from re-listing at a higher price.

The heart of the issue, though, is that you&#039;re trying to convince people that jewelcrafting is not profitable by giving them flawed arguments. It&#039;s like saying you can&#039;t make money from tailoring because buying the mats for an ebonweave robe, crafting it, and disenchanting it to sell the crystal is a bad idea. I&#039;m certain that there ARE better ways of making money than JCing, but if you&#039;re going to defend your statements on the subject by giving your readers ridiculous, low and negative profit margin examples of how JCs make money, it doesn&#039;t mean crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to clear something up first &#8211; I am in no way stating that JC is the be-all end-all moneymaker. Profit did not even figure into my decision to take it up; sexy boatloads of +spellpower did. My issue with your original article is that you are completely misinforming your readers as to the methods that jewelcrafters use to make profits. (And yes, disenchanting DOES make up a very large portion of my take, but I don&#8217;t see how that is relevant. Could I still make money with disenchanting by itself? Undoubtedly, but my current system is fast, easy, and has a profit margin that I am completely comfortable with.)</p>
<p><i>And why not turn your junk gems into Dream Shards?  Nothing wrong with turning vendor trash into something in high demand.  Besides, it’s a bigger profit margin than selling the blue gems overall.</i></p>
<p>Nothing that JC can make that turns into Dream Shards will turn a profit. The value of the materials that go into those items, either from selling them outright or crafting them into a dust-producing item, is always more than the price of a Dream Shard.</p>
<p><i>You also said you were selling scarlet rubies you find. That means you are farming.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re putting words in my mouth. I FIND these rubies when I prospect the saronite ore I buy for cheap. The ore that I make more on from prospecting, jewelcrafting, and DEing then I would from re-listing at a higher price.</p>
<p>The heart of the issue, though, is that you&#8217;re trying to convince people that jewelcrafting is not profitable by giving them flawed arguments. It&#8217;s like saying you can&#8217;t make money from tailoring because buying the mats for an ebonweave robe, crafting it, and disenchanting it to sell the crystal is a bad idea. I&#8217;m certain that there ARE better ways of making money than JCing, but if you&#8217;re going to defend your statements on the subject by giving your readers ridiculous, low and negative profit margin examples of how JCs make money, it doesn&#8217;t mean crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12728</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can send your questions to gavin@dominateyourserer   dot com   :wink:</description>
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		<title>By: Lawbringer</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12708</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope Dark - there is no way to make it any easier.  If it makes you FEEL better all you have to really get to is about 375 though and you can do the Northrend fishing dailies without a lure pretty much.  With a +100 lure you can start doing it at 300.  But there is no way around the grind - as a matter of fact it&#039;s worse than ever.  When they made it so that you could fish in any water they upped the number of casts per point a lot to compensate.  It&#039;s ten casts from like level 225 or so which means at an average of 12 seconds on each cast, and 10 casts per point, and 225 points to get to max it takes around 2,250X5/60/60 = 7.5 hours of fishing to go from 225-450.  And believe me when I say your average is probably going to be higher than 12 sec per cast.  So tough it out, there&#039;s no way around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope Dark &#8211; there is no way to make it any easier.  If it makes you FEEL better all you have to really get to is about 375 though and you can do the Northrend fishing dailies without a lure pretty much.  With a +100 lure you can start doing it at 300.  But there is no way around the grind &#8211; as a matter of fact it&#8217;s worse than ever.  When they made it so that you could fish in any water they upped the number of casts per point a lot to compensate.  It&#8217;s ten casts from like level 225 or so which means at an average of 12 seconds on each cast, and 10 casts per point, and 225 points to get to max it takes around 2,250X5/60/60 = 7.5 hours of fishing to go from 225-450.  And believe me when I say your average is probably going to be higher than 12 sec per cast.  So tough it out, there&#8217;s no way around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kazuki</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12707</link>
		<dc:creator>Kazuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, ive been reading DYS for about a year now and i read all the comments on every post... never made one though.
With this subject / post however, i feel as if i should make a comment.
First off, before the initial post, i was looking around on setting up a secondary proffession for my 80 Tankadin. I had previously (pre-wotlk) had enchanting and herbalism, ive decided to keep enchanting as it has made me money from d/e crappy quest greens, drops and AH junk, but have decided herbalism as evil and useless and a waste of time :mad: 
I had a look at some sites about JC and they try to tell you how incredible JC is, i asked my guildies and they say the same, yet they spend most of their non-raiding time flying around Northrend fighting both Horde and Alliance for a little node on a mountain somewhere while i sit in Orgimmar and hit a macro advertising Enchanting while i d/e crap (can i say this word on the interwebs :?: ) that i picked up in heroic runs and stuff from the AH.
So, after reading through the pros - cons of JC, i will agree that if you are going to be using it to be your primary income, you are gonna be basicly breaking even at best, i feel that you &lt;b&gt;need&lt;/b&gt; enchanting, and for JC to become even remotley usefull beyond feeding Enchanting, is if you raid, youll need the special gems, the trinkets and the slots.
Dont let this post by Lawbringer discourage you on JC wether you have it or not, take it as it is, advice on not to rely on JC as primary / only income, but to see it as an assistant to something like Enchanting and / or Raiding. 
Keep in mind, that JC is no different to Tailoring, Leatherworking or Blacksmith, you cant make much profit, if any, without farming, then you have to spend time advertising your items made or spending time and gold putting the item on the AH with all the other people with your same idea and hope to god that no-one undercuts you and your item sells before you have to pay money to repost it... and, if you are going to d/e the items made, you are making money from Enchanting... GG.
But hey, as i said, dont let these things make you shy away from the great proffession JC, it has alot to offer like free (or close to) jems, trinkets and jem slots as well as the ability to d/e items you make while leveling it.
So yeah, i am still going to replace my Herbalism with Jewel Crafting and im going to Dominate my PvE and Moneybags... on my server  :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, ive been reading DYS for about a year now and i read all the comments on every post&#8230; never made one though.<br />
With this subject / post however, i feel as if i should make a comment.<br />
First off, before the initial post, i was looking around on setting up a secondary proffession for my 80 Tankadin. I had previously (pre-wotlk) had enchanting and herbalism, ive decided to keep enchanting as it has made me money from d/e crappy quest greens, drops and AH junk, but have decided herbalism as evil and useless and a waste of time <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I had a look at some sites about JC and they try to tell you how incredible JC is, i asked my guildies and they say the same, yet they spend most of their non-raiding time flying around Northrend fighting both Horde and Alliance for a little node on a mountain somewhere while i sit in Orgimmar and hit a macro advertising Enchanting while i d/e crap (can i say this word on the interwebs <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' />  ) that i picked up in heroic runs and stuff from the AH.<br />
So, after reading through the pros &#8211; cons of JC, i will agree that if you are going to be using it to be your primary income, you are gonna be basicly breaking even at best, i feel that you <b>need</b> enchanting, and for JC to become even remotley usefull beyond feeding Enchanting, is if you raid, youll need the special gems, the trinkets and the slots.<br />
Dont let this post by Lawbringer discourage you on JC wether you have it or not, take it as it is, advice on not to rely on JC as primary / only income, but to see it as an assistant to something like Enchanting and / or Raiding.<br />
Keep in mind, that JC is no different to Tailoring, Leatherworking or Blacksmith, you cant make much profit, if any, without farming, then you have to spend time advertising your items made or spending time and gold putting the item on the AH with all the other people with your same idea and hope to god that no-one undercuts you and your item sells before you have to pay money to repost it&#8230; and, if you are going to d/e the items made, you are making money from Enchanting&#8230; GG.<br />
But hey, as i said, dont let these things make you shy away from the great proffession JC, it has alot to offer like free (or close to) jems, trinkets and jem slots as well as the ability to d/e items you make while leveling it.<br />
So yeah, i am still going to replace my Herbalism with Jewel Crafting and im going to Dominate my PvE and Moneybags&#8230; on my server  <img src='http://dominateyourserver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frizzl</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12703</link>
		<dc:creator>Frizzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of curiosity, what are the items in other professions that are great to disenchant? Seems like everywhere you look people are talking about the JC venue for enchanting mats but I&#039;d love to be able to eat up a lot of the cloth and leather I have sitting around if it means I can turn it (profitably) into dust and essence.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, what are the items in other professions that are great to disenchant? Seems like everywhere you look people are talking about the JC venue for enchanting mats but I&#8217;d love to be able to eat up a lot of the cloth and leather I have sitting around if it means I can turn it (profitably) into dust and essence.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkwolfneo</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12699</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkwolfneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about an article on how to level up fishing.  There has to be another way or a faster way to get fishing up.  I&#039;ve been working on it for a while and I&#039;m only at 276 it takes at least ten casts to get even a single point.  Do you get skill ups quicker if you are in an area that is designated for your fishing level?  I know you can fish anywhere, but this seems like it&#039;s taking forever it&#039;s worse then quest grinding to level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about an article on how to level up fishing.  There has to be another way or a faster way to get fishing up.  I&#8217;ve been working on it for a while and I&#8217;m only at 276 it takes at least ten casts to get even a single point.  Do you get skill ups quicker if you are in an area that is designated for your fishing level?  I know you can fish anywhere, but this seems like it&#8217;s taking forever it&#8217;s worse then quest grinding to level.</p>
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		<title>By: dwilson</title>
		<link>http://dominateyourserver.com/2009/06/05/gold-making-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12692</link>
		<dc:creator>dwilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ral problem with the last few articles is that you&#039;re just whacking people and telling them that they&#039;re wrong without actually laying out a strategy that shows them a step by step way to do it better. Overall the articles were worthless when it came to actually helping people do it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ral problem with the last few articles is that you&#8217;re just whacking people and telling them that they&#8217;re wrong without actually laying out a strategy that shows them a step by step way to do it better. Overall the articles were worthless when it came to actually helping people do it better.</p>
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