Comments on: WotLK – PVP Rogues OP?

By: yomoma

yomoma — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:22:21 +0000

if you play a rogue and lose to any class atm you suck ass.

By: avenged

avenged — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:35:27 +0000

I don’t fully agree with the post. Anyone who says there are only 1 spec or 2 specs for pvp doesn’t fully understand the class. I am constantly testing/switching specs and I find success in a great number of them. You just need to adjust the play style.

By: Avenard

Avenard — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:18:48 +0000

Wow, the total lack of understanding of the new buffs for the rogue is rediculous. People were actually saying spell casters have a chance! First of all no one even took a look at gorrote? yes the damage isn’t as good as a crit with ambush, but 4 secs of silence, you think that might help. Stealth behind a caster, hit premidition to get 2 dots, garrote will give you 4 and silence the caster, hit hem to get the 5th dot, kidneyshot to stun, shadowstep behind target, shadowdance and ambush ambush ambush, this by the time the caster has a clue he’s in a puddle of blood on the ground going WTF? mix in some poisons like mind numming or wounding poison for healers and theres no chance. Even warriors suck against rogues, use the same abilities except garrote is useless, just add another ambush, which will slow the target and lower the attack speed. The only class that has stood a chance against my sublelty rogue is a palidan. And yes 1v1 rogues are pretty much stacked, and beyond crowd control which has been majorly nurfed, they will pretty much only be good to take out 1 or maybe 2 essential casters like priests in group pvp before they are waisted. In my opinion thats the downfall of rogues, yes they have a shit load of dps against a single opponent, but anymore than that and they are screwed and have to vanish to get away. I still love the rogue and will continue to use ambush and shadowdance no matter what everyone says until blizzard decides to nurf it like the nurf everything else that makes a class fun.

By: Duralgrath

Duralgrath — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:46:39 +0000

Ways to kill a rogue for each class
Locks: Stfu everyone should already know this..have your butt-buddy puppy out and fear us to hell, while casting shadowbolt for 3-5k dmg a pop, 2-4 hits and were dead..dont even count in the dots..
Druids: Feral: Sit in one spot, repeatedly click tab, repeatedly use your stun, it’s better than Cheapshot will ever be. After stunning, just eat us alive and dot us, rinse and repeat if we use vanish.
Balance: Have the skill, i forget the name, that has a chance to proc entangling roots when we hit you, and take 2 steps forward, turn around, MOONFIRE SPAM!
Resto: You’re one of the best healing classes in WoW, just annoy us until we get bored and run away, cast in the random moonfire to drop our armor. WE CANT HEAL.
Warrior: Only way we can kill you is A) We’re extremely pro and way better geared B) We’re comb spec so you rarely hit us, and we attack at around .6 atk speed(Can be done, so shutup)
C) We spam garrote and other bleed effects and run in circles while evasioning and rinse and repeat the bleed effects until you’re dead.
Shammies: Frostshock, windfury, if we manage to kill you just use reincarnation.
Heal spec: You’re a healer with high defense, shut the hell up and kill us already.
Caster spec: frostshock, lightning bolt, ZOMG 3 HITS WE DIED? GGNORM
Pallies: Rogues are op? HAH! You can’t get hurt for about 14 seconds, you have a 5 second stun, you have 13k+ hp, you have amazingly high AP, and if you’re a shockadin..YOURE A SHOCKADIN, 2 HIT US ALREADY!
Priest: Holy, well….you’ve got 2.5k+ healing ..add in your 1 second casts and instant heals, we cant hurt you. You can fear us away and smite us to death. If you’re shadow, we already lose 15% dmg to you, if youve got resil, we’re doing around oh say… 70% normal dmg, and any smart Spriest has instant heal on his action bar just incase he gets low.
Hunter: I play a hunter. Never lost to a rogue in 2 and a half years, unless he uses WAY better gear.Wanna know how, fine.
If BM spec(Beast master for the lamen) use your pets stun, beastial wrath, you now do 10% more damage, and your pet does as well. Your pet should do a considerably nice amount of damage, while you kite us, dot us with your poison shots, and arcane us to death. drop a freeze trap to get away.
MM spec(Marksman): Aimed shot, you do 1/2 out hp in one shot. concussive shot, followed by a steady shot, and we’re OUTTA THERE!
Survival: Snake trap, kite us to death, we’re dead in a few seconds due to massive snake damage.
Mage: Fire| Just spam fireblast and blink away. Hopefully you’re PoM spec, cus its the only way Fire rapes IMO..(In my opinion = IMO ). Presence of mind followed by Pyroblast. We’re dead if we don’t use cloak of shadows. If we do? Blink away and repeat firebolt and fireblast.
Ice: You’re a fucking frostie mage! You do 4k dmg, slow us, freeze us in place, and become involnerable for 10 seconds! Shutup and spam frostbolt! Oh and icelance does 500 dmg if you’re smart with it, freeze us in place, cast 2 frostbolts, and spam icelance. We’re dead.
Arcane: I’ve come to hate arcane mages. Spam Arcane Blast, it does a shit load of dmg, casts fast as fuck as well. You should have a ton of +int gear, so dont worry about the manacost.
Darkknights: You’re like a warlock and a warrior combined. Impressive hp, armour, attack power, and dots. Nothing can stop you. use level 1 gear and we still die! (EXAGERATION, DONT QQ AND BASH ME)

AND FOR EVERYONE THAT SAYS IM A NOOB OR SOME SHIT, IVE TESTED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ON NORMAL SERVERS, AND ON PRIVATE SERVERS. USING S4, S3, S2, S1, T6, T5, T4. IT DOESNT MATTER.

By: Codyj

Codyj — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:14:56 +0000

Your a noob Deven, Seriously. Get Master of deception, locks “puppy will not see you, I’ve never lost to a lock as SS-hemo spec with swords. Mage, use garrote instead of Cheap shot (it silences) then shadowstep to them when they do blink, use mind numbing and criplling poisons. Cos out of Frost nova.

Hunters, Get The improved sap talent (whatever its called) sap outside of flare, wait on flare to end, stunlock him away from trap, If hes beast wait until after his pet stun and shadowstep back to him, stay on top of him use bleeds if hes gonna use beastial wrath.

I would say more, but you get the picture, You simply don’t know how to play noobz…

By: Slavrix

Slavrix — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:58:53 +0000

OMFG so many walls of text…L2PUNCTUATE!!!!

Btw, alot of the infomation is now wrong from this post. Many of these things mentioned have been revised since this posting. gg have fun

By: obituaryking

obituaryking — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:03:39 +0000

Some people in here are so bad, calling the rogue class OP…i’ve seen so many people call rogues OP, coming from hm, a druid, the most overpowered pvp class there is in BC, a warlock, about as OP, seeing as how 30% of 2’s are lock druid, and with wotlk changes and talents, rogues are gonna be underpowered, 5 out of 10 classes are going have 50% snare duration, which is going to cause rogues to be shiving and using their global cd’s constantly just to stay on their target, and melee has it harder as it is due to the game’s latency, but of course blizzard doesn’t see that, just like they don’t see 90% of other things wrong with this game, *cough* druids, frost mages. For all you warlocks calling rogues OP are so ridiculous, every class has an anti class, ROGUES are yours, get over it, warriors eat us rogues just like we eat you except they have a bigger appetite aka we die faster. In 3.0 you will rape everything, UA, instant HoT, AND SL? wtf is blizzard thinking…come 3.0 rogues will be nothing compared so other classes.

By: Jaredith

Jaredith — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:53:26 +0000

Gavin & Lawbringer. I’m curious what your guy’s views on Rogues are. Do you think that Rogues are really deserving of such hate just cause we got Cheapshot, kidneyshot, blind, vanish , and stealth? Also your opinions on the WOTLK Mace spec no longer stunning and just giving 6% crit damage despite that the stun on mace Currently had a diminishing return after first 1-2 mace stuns ?

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:15:43 +0000

And people don’t see how unbalancing/overpowered these new talents/skills are?

Sure, sounds like fun. In practice, a load of overpowered skills make the game a cooldown war, where everyone dies instantly, providing the other player has his cooldowns up. Fail more, WoW.

By: Deleo

Deleo — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:06:27 +0000

Seriously Rogue DESERVES buff? The easiest class to play (When you check out warcraftmovies.com there are 2 skilled paladins 3 skilled shamans 8 skilled mages 1 skilled priest and …. and finally 99999999999 skilled rogues – that means ITS NOT ABOUT SKILL) Its just pushing 3 buttons and win or run away when you are losing. yea you are very skilled and its VERY fun