Fastest Leveling Ever!
Posted on September 4th, 2008 by Lawbringer under General TipsNot too long ago, it was saying something pretty impressive if you had a level 70 of every class. But now, anyone can have 10 toons at 70 with a lot less sweat. Really, you can reasonably develop 10-12 level 70 characters in less time than you can possibly imagine. It’s so easy, and I’m kicking myself for not seeing it sooner. But I really can’t be too hard on myself since this wasn’t even possible until about a month ago when Blizz introduced the Refer-a-Friend program.
We did an article about that, but I just didn’t look into it all that much at the time. You see, I already have 3 accounts and several 70’s so I just didn’t see what a big benefit it was until a couple of days ago. So stop whatever you are doing with your toons and read this very carefully before you do another minute of leveling.
My wife and I are working on several sets of toons in preparation for the expansion. I certainly wanted to have one of each class at 70 ready to take into the new content so that I wasn’t stuck having to push several classes all the way from level 1-80. That just doesn’t sound like a good time.
Based on our beta testing, you could also stop at level 68 and do just fine in WotLK if you wanted to. I took my shadow priest to Northrend at 68 with middlin gear and it was no sweat. So if you could just get a full set of toons to level 68 you could have a good jump start on most folks.
But leveling 4 sets of 2 plus one just doesn’t sound like fun to me – or probably anyone else. Especially if you are relatively new to the game, this can seem like a simply impossible task. But with the RaF (refer a friend) in effect, you will just not believe how easy it can be.
I’m even going to approach this from the perspective of “you don’t even have any friends who play.” You don’t have to actually refer a new person to the game. I referred myself using the RaF link and started a new account that linked to one of my old accounts. I even transferred several toons from another account to the new referral account! It’s just like starting any new account, but you get all the experience buffs and other benefits to go with it. It’s just too easy to pass up.
So I put it to the test a bit yesterday. Triple experience is something you just have to see for yourself to believe. In one session at level 30, my wife and I completed 8 quests in Thousand Needles. Those 8 quests would normally take you from halfway through level 29 to just about level 30. But by the time we had done those (total played time about 45 minutes) we had both dinged 32 and were over 50% to 33. It’s just stupid fast.
So that made me put pen to paper on the other big benefit from the RaF deal. For every 2 levels you gain on your RaF account, you can give 1 free level-up to a toon on your Main account. That means each toon that hits level 60 has 30 levels to grant to another toon under level 60.
From what I can tell so far, when playing with two linked accounts, you should reasonably be able to hit 60 in half the time it would normally take you to do it solo. So if you are smart about it, you can have 4 level 60’s (2 on the referred account and 2 on the main account) in the same amount of time it would take you to hit 60 on one toon by yourself.
At the end of that period of time, your 2 level 60 toons on the RAF account would have 60 free levels to give! So you just pop a new toon onto your main account, meet your RAF toons and BOOM – one free toon at 60 with ZERO days played time.
Well, that was so easy, let’s just lather, rinse and repeat. Push another two toons to 60, and get another free 60. By this time you have 10 level 60 toons ready to go into outlands whenever you like. That’s one of each class, plus an extra paladin or something so you don’t have to worry about respeccing him all the time.
If you are working on your first 70, you can just start another account and whack out one of every other class faster than it took you to hit 70 the first time. It’s really unbelievable how well this works.
If you are even just a little smarter, you can figure out how to actually hit 60 on 4 of those toons and only have to play 50 levels. Play the toons that are going to get the “Free” levels up to level 10, and there’s 20 other free levels to give to the “main” toons. If you play the RaF toons to level 5 before you begin the main toons, and save the free level ups until later, you will only have to play your main toons to about level 54 or so and then just ding them to 60.
And check this out for another nifty little time-saver. I have grown to prefer the Blood-elf starting area up to level 20. But if I want a Tauren druid, that means a hideous run that takes about 20 minutes. Not with RaF. I can just start a Blood Elf Toon, pop my new Tauren in the game, have the Blood Elf invite the Tauren to a group, and then summon them to Sunstrider Isle in 5 seconds. No fuss, no muss – it’s brilliant.
If your computer can handle it, you can just double box this the whole way. Just log into both accounts, set one toon to follow and then minimize so it doesn’t chew up your graphics processing power. You can play both toons all by yourself and still get the triple experience. That also means you can skip all of the quests where you have to gather 10 of something and only do the ones where you kill 10 of whatever mobs. This way, you’re not having to switch back and forth to loot drops between screens.
So, the way to take maximum advantage of the RAF program is to create the new account with the instructions at the wow website. Activate the account to full BC status and then get to work. Run two toons on your main account to level 10 and then just let them sit. Run 4 toons on your RaF account to level 4 and then double box (or actually play with a friend on your main or RaF account) with the toons on your main account. Just save all the free level-ups until you hit 60 on your RaF toons, and then pop everything else on your main to 60.
It’s sweet, sweet, sweet. Use the RaF program to build all those toons you’ve always wanted, and when the WotLK comes out – you’ll be ready to REALLY Dominate – with any class you like. Good luck, and we’ll see you in Northrend!
















Please Help! If it is possible, please email me the dirrections on how to double box wow. I already have two accounts and want to have more level 70 toons.
Dee
cocacolapaystub@aol.com
Its easy, your PC must be good good enough to handle 2 games at the same time, all you have to do is change the graphics settings to “Window Mode” and open another game. That’s it.
how do you change graphic settings to window mode?
Do i need a new email to recruit a friend?
or even, do i need different payment details? i.e would i still be able to pay for my acc, and the R.A.F acc. on the same credit card.
thanks, great stuff! really useful!
You can use same billing info and email for recruit a friend. Blizz doesn’t care WHO owns the account, as long as your paying for it they’re good
cool
thanks!!!
can’t wait to get my alts up hehe..
DEE
it is easy to double box wow, all you do is open your wow twice, then sing in on the one wow with your main account, and log in, then on the 2nd world of warcraft that you opened, just sign in with your alt account, and login, simple, then make your 2 toons meet up with one anotherm set your alt to follow your main and then minimize that box, then play with your main easy as that.
hopw that helps
Narthix, 70 UD lock, laughing skull
doesnt anyone see the problem with this? ur gonna have a whole bunch of ppl running around that dont know how to really play their toons yeah they will have base knowledge of there toons. but whats the point ur gonna have a bunch of forgive the term but newbies even if they have 4 70’s already whos gonna say they know how to play that random toon, u know the one theyve wanted for a while but never wanted to mess with to level. i know for me its a druid but i just cant stand to grind through another hybrid class. other than that gavin i love reading ur articles lots of great knowledge u have on ur team. i appreciate everything u do.
You know – I used to think there was something to this argument, but now I think it’s hogwash.
Give me a level 60 rogue, a class I’ve never played more than 15 levels and I guarantee you that by the time I hit 70 I would be nearly as good as any other rogue you’ve ever grouped with in PvE.
Give me a level 70 rogue and a few weeks in BG’s and I would figure out how to be pretty good at PvP as well.
This whole concept of “people who didn’t WORK to level” will always suck is just stupid. So just because you did the grind with the same low level skills from level 1 to level 40, does that 40 levels of working with inferior talents really help you at level 60? Please.
I think it’s an argument from hubris. You think you are better than everyone already. So how can anyone possibly ever be as good as you if they skipped anything that you had to do. Ridiculous, Gavin could play a priest probably as well as anyone you’ve ever seen with just a tiny bit of practice even though he’s never touched one.
What makes you so good that you are so much better than everyone else that you just KNOW that if everybody doesn’t do it the way you did it then you KNOW they are going to suck. It’s nonsense.
The fact is that more players having more high level characters will raise the level of play for everyone else because they will finally be ABLE to learn how to play high level toons they haven’t had before. They may have found it more difficult in the past to learn how to do things at a high level because they had never experienced high level content to watch druid healers and rogues and priests and tanks, and CC and all of those things. Now that they they reasonably get to the end-game content their learning curve will be SHORTER not longer.
You do not ‘pwn’ is the lesson here. Everyone else does not suck. And if you would LIKE to have a druid but couldn’t face the grind, then you didn’t really read the article. That was exactly the point. You probably would like a druid, and this is your chance to get one a LOT easier. But you might not want to because you wouldn’t really be any good at one once you got him I guess. Oh, right, you are the exception to the rule.
(BTW flonstin excuse the harsh tone of this reply. I understand what you mean overall, but there is a whole pile of elitist idiots out there who really think that way and I wanted to nip this thought process in the bud before it got into their little pea brains that it was a good way of looking at it. More power to you brother, and I certainly hope you take the time to go get that druid – I’ll party with you any time)
I found that reading different major class threads about PvE/PvP helped more than leveling from 1-64 did for my priest…
i would have do disagree with you mate, i have never found someone who has ebayed a character to ever be as good as someone who leveled that same class all the way themselves, no matter how fast tehy are leveling.
if you play a class as you are going and gain your new abilities as you go, you learn what each one does and how and when to use them.
if you just get handed a lvl 70, then even after a couple of weeks playing it, youll never be as good as someone who leveled their char themselves
To Flonstin,
As a person who has leveled many different classes to 70, I say that the more you play and the more different classes you experience the better prepared you are to play another one altogether.
Each new character, even after all these years, I can level faster and better and even better understand what I’m doing and how to do it. It’s not rocket science, it’s common sense. Anyone who has the will to level this many characters to 70 is the last person you need to worry about not knowing a thing about their class.
My husband and I started a R-A-F account and the summons, the experience bonus, etc, is astounding. We’ve been leveling a druid/rogue combo and we’re 51. We’ve been skipping over all of the collection quests, except the ones that give really good rewards, and the really great thing about the triple xp is you can skip quests you never liked doing or zones you didn’t like.
We decided to skip STV altogether and we’re going to 70 and then we’ll go back and work on Bloodsail rep, this will be my first character to do it. Without the triple xp we couldn’t have skipped that zone altogether like we have. It’s fun, if you can do it, I recommend it.
Gav,
I love your tips, and i reccomended you to a Ton of people this past weekend at Dragon Con in ATL – but your a little slow to the plate on this one… i have been doing this since RaF came out. No one i knew wanted to play, and i really wanted a 2nd account, and whalla.
it really rocks!
Glad people know, but i think Blizz might catch on and start doing something about it, so step on it folks – no telling how long this will last…
I actually told you I was kicking myself for not using it sooner, so I admit I was slow to the plate on this one. But better late than never on good tips sometimes.
As for Blizz canceling this process, I don’t see it happening very soon.
First off, the program has only been out 3 1/2 weeks.
Number two, they knew EXACTLY what people would do with this ahead of time, so it’s not like it’s any surprise. They did something about the biggest complaint they had, which was to give people a way to speed up leveling and STILL get more customers. It’s brilliant.
Third – accounts stay linked for 90 days, so they have to at least let this thing continue until after the release of the WotLK, so you can probably sign up for this through the end of the year which would mean if you waited until the last minute you should be able to use it through March.
Fourth – I don’t see them canceling this at all to be honest. It makes great business sense. Every single person who wants to do this has to give me at least $100? Dang, why would you cancel that? Besides – as I’ve mentioned before, the WotLK can only be as successful as tBC if there are LOADS of level 70’s ready to tackle the new content. It would be even better if there were loads of every class and not just a slew of new DK’s running all over everyone. So giving people the very fastest path to 60 is just reasonable for the short AND long term.
This game has always been about the end game content, leveling is a minor challenge that turns into a major annoyance when it’s your 7th time through. If you want people to experience ALL of the game with ALL of the classes, you have to do something to make that possible without changing the base xp mechanics so much that the game is not the same. So they buffed xp from quests and now this to help you out. Don’t think they will pull the rug any time soon.
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even if they have 4 70’s already whos gonna say they know how to play that random toon
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Note: “You” in this paragraph is generic and not directed at the person quoted.
If you’ve got 4 70s and you haven’t picked up some nuances of playing other classes (beyond the basics), you’re either extremely unobservant or don’t care to be a better player and probably shouldn’t ever play another class (oh wait, you already have 4…). Please. I logged into a friend’s acct cuz he was out of town and my guild needed a tank for Kara. I have never tanked before and certainly not in Kara. They said I handled it like a pro and were actually surprised. When I chalked it up to gear, they said gear doesn’t push buttons to hold aggro, which is true. If you’re a good player, you’re going to be a good player. Period. Oh, and you could make the same argument about Death Knights. Some people will be “newbs” at Death Knights but the good players adjust quickly and can think on their feet and will seem like they’ve been playing a DK for years. Adaptation and situational awareness trump time spent in game.
My 2cp
Hey, Lawbringer, it looks like you’ve mastered leveling fast in WoW…now how about trying to level SAFELY? What I mean by that is try to take any character to as high a level you can without ever dying. Not even once. If you do, that’s it, game over, you might as well delete the toon. It’s called hardcore WoW, and it’s actually an exciting way to play that re-energizes the game (at least it did for me).
Just be prepared to lose a few characters. I’ve tried maybe a dozen hardcore characters, and most have died around level 20, some made it to around level 30. One (troll priest) I took to 54 before a game bug killed her…which I still thought of as dying but others didn’t, so I took her to 60 before she died a true, honest death (at the cauldron in Hellfire).
Hardcore WoW has to be played on the honor system, since there’s no way to know if someone has never died. Apart from never dying, you must not be twinked (although you can borrow gold if you pay it back soon). You must not let someone of a significantly higher level help you survive (if they do, ask them to stop; if they persist, leave). You may group, but only with people no more than two levels above yours (be aware…unless they’re also playing hardcore, they will likely get you killed sooner or later). The idea is, you game with basically no more advantages than are typical for your level.
Of course, this usually means no PvP and no instances (it’s a little hard not to die), some quests are simply not worth risking, and traveling through certain zones gets really nerve-wracking…but successfully surviving risky situations becomes so damn satisfying!
So what do you think? You’ve already mastered several aspects of WoW…why not try this one? It won’t kill you.
Give it a try and report on your experiences.
you this is a fun thing to do, just never enter a bg or play on a pvp server
Also a great way to double or triple box is to invest $20 in keyclone. This software will let you control two three whatever windows at the same time no matter which window is forward and selected. I have a level 13 (atm)druid that i’m leveling as the main and a level 24 mage as the second box. I have one set of buttons for the druid and one set for the mage. I dont even look at the mages screen just pull with my druid, attach for a little while in bear form and then spam arcane blast with the mage when i need to. I never die and can aoe muli pulls.
I would also recomend to build a follow and assist macro. All of my mage spells are macro’d so that i assist the druid and then cast. Works great and the leveling is so fast is silly. when the druid levels twice i then bring in a rogue and grant him the free level. So i’m duel logging and leveling three characters at the same time. I just cant wait until my druid catches up with my mage….we will be unstoppable.
IF i were to lvl a charactr on my RAF account to 60 could i then use the levels to get a lvl 50 toon to 70?. I personally love leveling and i like doing it on each class. I have several 70s and lots of high lvls adn i DONT RUSH. people always rush things and i get so bored of that. only reason id go for this is the zhevra mount but even that isnt that cool.
You can only grant levels to a toon under level 60 – so you can’t save them up and take a toon from 50-70, sorry. Then triple experience also ends at level 60, so the buff is only between 1 and 60.
I really like Vyle’s idea! I used to do this way back in Diablo I days. It adds an amazing element to the game play.
It might be something a little left field, but not likely to be too alien to Blizzard (after all, the DK is pretty much like this) but I think they will get to the point where you will be able to “buy” pre-built toons.
Along the lines of a level 55 ungeared toon with 100g or something.
Hey Gavin,
Does this RaF apply to WotLK? can i lvl a character to 70 then use an alt account to get 10 levels and go straight to 80?
No, the RaF only works up to level 60…
-Gavin
It would be nice if there was a list or guide to quests of the proper type to maximize this program. As mentioned collection accounts are a royal pain, though kill X and gather X are not bad, the challenge is finding them all and skipping the time burners.
Try and shamy/tank combo for real fun!! totems do work without much interaction on the follow toon for you dual boxers…
Just remember once you hit 60 all the benefits including any saved unused free levels are GONE..
The XP & bonus level effects of the RaF end at level 60. At that point you stop earning bonus XP and you stop earning bonus levels. You cannot use bonus levels to go beyond level 60. The character giving the bonus levels has to be higher level than the recipient too. So you can’t start a new toon on the refered account and pump them to level 20 to sling shot your level 50 toon to level 60.
i’ve been double boxing (and ocasionally triple boxing using my laptop) since you posted the note about RaF a couple weeks ago. i usually hit 4 or 5 levels on each character within just a couple hours.. so far i’m at 32 with my hunter, 30 with my priest, and i got a 20 druid and a 17 rogue mostly from using the free levels. its very handy. the only downside for me is that i started doing this on a new server, and so i didn’t have a stockpile of gold to build up all the talents and abilities. i’ve sold mostly leather and stuff from skinning to get as far as i have, but its a bit rough.
for those asking about leveling the free levels up to 70 and 80, you can only give a free level to a toon lower than you.. and it stops at 60… so the answer is no.
i also agree with Lawbringers comment about the people that think if you don’t level from 1-70 you don’t know what you’re doing.. its just a matter of taking the time to see what your abilities do and when to effectivley use them. which for anyone with a decent IQ can figure out in about an hour… not saying an hour will make you the BEST… but you will at least survive long enough to do some damage…
i take back the comment about hitting 70 with the free levels
… i’m pretty sure i saw some people in game leveling characters to 70…
but i could be mistaken..
so i don’t want to get flamed for being wrong…
This is very intresting, and i do intend to try this. I have always loved trying any class i felt like at any time, and hated the leveling process. This gives me a chance to speed through that faster then ever befor, with some nice perks too >.>
One thing i do want to know about is, other then the monthly cost ($15\mo.), how much will it cost to create the New account. Upgrading it online to TBC…how much?
I think its $40…20 for Vanilla and 20 for TBC…so total cost is $55 per new account
Would it be possible to save up 10-or-so levels to use on a lvl 70 when the xpac comes out. Then you could be an 80 on the first day!
That is defintly worth the chance to pick up 4+ level 60+’s
I tried this when the 300% + Grant a Level came out, and unless they changed it, there is a nifty way to get more out of it. Lets say you have a 2 60 toons with +30 level grants each. Start a level one toon, and get him as close as possible to leveling before giving him the levels. If it still works the way it did, your XP bar will stay at the same Percentage as it was, not the same amount of XP into a level it was.
Biggest problem. Money. Some people dont want to be spending 45+ dollars a month just to keep all those multiple accounts running
The main point is, this is only if you HATE leveling. Honestly, when i first started playing this game, i really didnt like leveling at all. Now that I’ve experienced a lot of endgame content, i absolutely love playing different alts of different classes. Honestly, x3 leveling speed is just stupid, and ruins the game.
Now i know you already addressed this, and i will fight you to the death on it, people are better with their class if they’ve leveled it themselves, ESPECIALLY if it’s you’re first 70. Now i understand if you have 4 or 5, then you could pick up a new class at 60 or 70 (one way or another) and be fine and learn it quickly, but you will never have the true skill of someone who’s truly amerced themselves in the class. It’s just the way it is.
You can do this with new accounts that you set up belonging to yourself. Then, after you level your toons, transfer them all to a single account. Then, cancel the extra accounts.
Yeah, you’ll have a month or two paying for extra accounts, but look at it this way: If your hobby was model trains, or comic collecting, or baseball cards, you’d spend a lot more than $50 a month on it. For us, WoW is our hobby… so we’re happy to spend a bit more than non-hobbyists.
And, for your last paragraph… can we at least agree that there are some people who can pick up a new class and kick ass with it, just as there are some people who can play all the way to 70 and still suck?
All Lawbringer wants to do is avoid stereotypes – just because someone started a new class at 60 doesn’t mean that EVERY person who played the class all the way to 70 is automatically better…
-Gavin
Ok….this may or may not of been addressed…x3 lvling thats great, but wasnt the main attraction for purchasing another (3rd) account…I want the mount…but have yet to receive it : ( it’s been a month….my Raf account purchased the 2 months…. nor have I seen anybody with one on my server…sigh… anybody have it? if yes.. How was it received?
Cheers
Minerva
Well, it hasn’t QUITE been a month yet. The way the mount works is that the new account is sort of ‘flagged’ as new for 30 days from the date you purchase the 60 days played time. As soon as the account rolls into the new status, the mount is granted, so just be patient a bit longer.
if its your first time playing WoW then i agree, but i don’t think you have to have multiple 70s… i only have ONE 70… technically 2, but one is my friends on my account. but i have at least 40+ characters on my 3 accounts.. with the highest toon being 60+ aside from the 2 70s….so to pick up a toon i’ve never played would be quite easy… for me it would be Pally, priest (which i’m leveling right now) and druid… i’ve pretty much played all the other ones.
and if you’re wondering why i never leveled those all up to 70… well… over the years i get bored with certain servers and i just change it up. i just switched from Horde to Alliance, which makes me have to learn the game from scratch basically cause i have no idea where anything is for alliance. makes it more interesting.
I can see how this would be useful, especially for casual players, however I find one fundamental problem with the whole concept. I will quickly say that I’m 16 and just starting college so there is no way that I could afford a second account, I don’t spend too much time on WoW but i’ve recently got my character to lv 60+ which for me is a big achievement. Now for people who can just pay some extra money and match that achievement so much easier with this, it dampens the achievment for me. It may just be me but I find it quite gutting.. could this not have even been limited to specific servers or something?
Hey i just wanted to give my 2 cents and that is that this really works, well.
about 2 days after the RAF came out it seemed too good to be true so I told my friend and he started a new account, a trial but when we got to level 5 in 7 min, 7MIN played time he hed to upgrade.
I would also like to say thanks for the tips I love your other posts and I think I will use this method now for the RAF.
Here’s a thought. What’s the fastest way to do this. I played a combo up to about 26 and then decided to change gears. I used a 70 from my first account to just run my 26 from my second account through stuff, killing mobs, running instances, etc. Then gave the free levels to my 26 on the first account. Since I have some levels saved up since level 3 that I haven’t used, I can grant him a level every time my new toon levels. What are your thoughts on which way is faster?
In my situation, I have many toons on my first account level 29 – 46, that’s where I plan to spend the free levels once I get new toons high enough to grant the levels.
Actually, to those who asked about multi-boxing, there are two primary ways to do it. Software and hardware. Hardware requires two computers and a program that duplicates the presses of various keys from one computer onto the other, allowing you to set up say a warrior/mage team so that for example, 1 is auto-attack for the warrior, and wand for the mage, and 2 is heroic strike for the warrior and fireball for the mage, etc.
The other method is pure software, that requires you to have a computer capable of handling two copies of WoW. You have to obtain a software that will run it such as Autohotkey. Then you have to program it to once again copy your keystrokes into both programs. Once you actually set up the program you need to actually start setting up macros. Assists, follows, etc. Its fairly difficult.
Hey, I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but my GF and I are currently doing this with 1 char each, and using my main toon (70 ret pally) that is linked to NEITHER account to run instances from lvl 10-55, it takes roughly <1day played to hit 55 using this method, it is STUPIDLY fast, even though you have an xp loss from the 70 toon, the tripple xp more than makes up for it, we usually sit between 150-200k xp/hour.
I know that “power leveling” isnt really something that people like, but for the two of us who spent 50ish days played on our mains in BT etc, leveling through all those tedious quests again is simply boring, so we found this really fast way to do it.
An important note, you CANNOT do this with a linked 70, as it nullifies the triple xp (mob is grey to the 70).
Once at level 70, what then? How do we get all the freat gear cos we’ll have missed out on building teams etc.. I’ve got a few level 70s now but don’t know where to go from here? BGs (without ANY gear – they’ll drum me out the bg)? How can I do Kara etc.? So busy levelling haven’t got a team/guild. Can you do an article on this subject? That’d be really great – thanks
I know this sounds kind of shallow but is there anyone out there willing to link their account with my old rusty one Horde (Frostmourne – Oceanic)? I got a 67lock, 52spriest, 28rogue, 7warrior, 21 paladin, and wouldn’t mind starting a druid. I haven’t ever hit 70 yet. Heck im actually considering starting another account to benefit someone else or myself just need someone to convince me of it.
Anyway in relation to Gavin and Lawbringer i agree with you saying that people can get as experienced from 60-70 BUT what about learning how to use a skill perfectly which comes from adding 1 skill/spell at a time and learning different ways to use it, when and so on…. You could learn this from 60-70 but i cant but feel something could be missing, it just doesnt seem right. Could it be that easy? and the answer is yes.
There is actually software called Keyclone that allows you to play more then one character at a time. This is what multi-boxers use, then its just a matter of setting up macros that allows all your characters to cast at the same time.
I am using it to multibox four at one time. Its awesome!
If you’ve leveled 1 toon to 70, you can level all toons to 70 and understand them properly. Then, with sufficient reviews here or at various TheoryCraft sites for your respective class, you can gain more knowledge than working through each level.
Not to mention, leveling is vastly different than raiding or PVP, so you’re talking about 3 different aspects of the game, which generally have 3 entirely different specs. You can only get a complete glimpse of what is useful in each situation when you have ALL spells and ALL abilities, not an impartial toon in weak gear.
The gear you use while leveling is nothing compared to what you use WHILE leveling. Few classes are very gear dependent, and I’d say the Warrior is most gear dependent while leveling, so you can’t get a good grasp TIL 70, or soon to be 80.
Reading the websites and understanding the spells you have goes alot longer than leveling a toon. What does help is just being to control your character, which is something that comes over time, such as kiting, trapping/kitting, or learning to control more mobs than normal. Again, something tougher at 70, than while leveling.
That’s the old school mantra because, having raided most TBC content, from all people I spoke to, they never really “got it” til they were in competitive and difficult situations like 10 man raids and harder heroics. Even if you level it, leveling doesn’t require the full complement of abilities you would use in PVP or PVE-raiding. So it’s a bunk argument that leveling makes you better. It doesn’t. You’re in a vaccuum when you level. You can group up and rely on other people. Even lowbie dungeons don’t challenge people much nor do they require traditional groups or specs.
Anyone who has placed a considerable amount of time knows this.
ive seen people with out any level 70s running around with lvl 65ish toons in outlands doing intances with them.. and im wondering how the heck did these people get to 65? they are so terrible and know nothing about the game..
well let me tell you. i have 2 70s a 67 a 66 and a 54(trying to get em to 68 for the expansion) theres 8 different classes is there not?. so i got half of them pretty well down cuz i leveld all of them by myself. these 5 plus the death knight is alot of time spent to level to 80. because (i may be mistaken) doesnt the experience benifits for RAF end when you hit 60?
i really think im over my head as it is. cuz i dont think ill be able to get all 6 of my characters (DK included) to lvl 80 before i lose interest.. and diablo 3 comes out
You guys need to remember that just because you actually level a toon to 70 doesn’t mean you know how to play.
I’ve got a 70 rogue that leveled conventionally and I suck with. I power lvled a 70 preist (6 days, 7 hours with non group guild help) that I think I’ve got mastered. It’s all in your likes, dislikes, and preferences.
Hi just like to say the refer a friend thing is awsome, i started a third account about a week ago to try it out and yesterday i ding 59 with 4 chars the shortest play time being 1day 19hours and that includes a few hours afk and time at ah etc. I am now currently working on my last 2 chars that i need to get up and plan on having them 59 in just a coule days (currently 25)
Just a quick reality check for those pundits paper planning on using the RaF benefits to get X amount of levels per char, etc. Well, it says that for every 2 levels you gain you can give a free level. You don’t gain level 1, that’s what you start at (there’s no level 0). So at level 3 you’d get your first bonus level. Also, when you hit level 60 you LOSE all bonus levels you’ve saved, so you’re maxed out at level 59. That leaves a total of 29 bonus levels [(59-1)/2], not 30. Of course, this will allow you to take a level 1 to level 30, basically giving you 30 levels, but you couldn’t do it twice to go to level 60. In fact, the highest you could get to with this system is level 59. This is because the grantee cannot be equal or higher level than the granter. So you can go from 58 to 59, but that would make you equal and you could not then go to level 60, even if you had bonus levels to spare.
Of course, I have not actually tried all this in game. I do have a RaF account (my GF) but we haven’t bothered giving out any bonus levels yet. I’m just going by the description of the ability given by Blizzard. I would be happy if the bonus levels were calculated as (current level)/2 and you could still use them when you hit level 60 and therefore use them to take a 59 to 60. I don’t think that’s how it is however.
The point of this discourse is to suggest you adjust your paper doll calculations accordingly and don’t unwittingly ding 60 before using those bonus levels. Have fun.
sadly i wish this had come out sooner…. ive been 2 boxing for like 2 years. since i can never get a group .. i see it as a challenge to go back to an old instance and try to 2 box it with my druid and mage…just soloed sholomance today . beause ive never got to do it before TBC came out.. hmm was interestingly good and i actually made out really good. 4 dark runes 1 pristine black diamond , a lifestone(epic trinket) 260 runecloth, even went under and opend the hidden door to the chest. and to my suprise there was a boe blue in it. got 3 boe blues 2 magisters gloves and belt… interesting might farm that place a bit more. all tole i made about 1.2k gold on ah and selling the bop drops.(im leveling a rogue enchanter for my DE).. well theres som infor…
woops rmbling on here .. haha .. well payiing for another account atm isnt in the buget. but soon as i can im gunna get an new one and transfer all of my other toons on the new account.
I only have two questions about the Benifits.
1. on the second account, do you need to have Burning Crusade to get the benifits?
And
2. Can you transfer your free levels to characters on other servers?
Please reply if you know the awnser to any of my questions.
Nonda 70 BE Mage on Area 52
you do NOT need BC to do this.. my new account has not been upgraded yet and i’m leveling just fine… only downside is you can’t access any of the BC content… but it does work.
I’ve always been quite sceptic to this, as you have to pay for both accounts (if the main and ref. one are both yours), but hearing all this good stuff about it really makes me itch to do it. Furthermore I am really anxious to have a few toons I’ve only dreamth about due to slow leveling.
Thanks for the advice, I’m convinced now
-Razortooth 70 Druid
Thank you Achilles for your response.
i currently found out that it is better to do this trick, if you have 3 accounts, with one account having a level 70 toon. if you have a laptop (doesnt have to be very good, just able to play WoW) and another computer (Doesnt matter just has to be able to hold 2 WoW programs up) then you should level really fast. Example: have on your good computer, the level 70 account, and one of your other accounts, and on the other computer, have the third account up. Use the level 70 to begin running quests that are needed (not going for grinding experiance) really fast, and when the quest levels are to high, move to the next set of quests in the different questing area. once you have this done, you should be able to continue leveling through instance running (X 3 the experiance due to your benifit account, and X2 of that due to group xp. you should be able to level fast in no time at all.
i’ve been doing the exact same thing as Bobby… 2 accounts on my desktop with the other on my laptop
hit 9 levels in about 4 hours or so… use to take me weeks to get that far. (i don’t play ever night.. weekends mostly) but i should be hitting 60 on 2 characters.. and i’ve already started the next 2.. up to lvl 10, and got the set after that ready to go as well
i think im missing something, how can i level my other toons when I get levels with my Raf account and the one its linked to?!?!
For every 2 levels gained by the referee, a bonus level can be given to one of the referers characters.
I know this is true, my neighbor is doing it atm, his toons are at 50 right now i believe, and when i started my account, way back in 05-06, wasn’t it that you got a free month of playing time, so couldn’t you enter your credit card information, get yours 2 60’s on your RaF account then switch em over, costing you less than the upkeep of another account? it would be some hardcore gaming but still way worth it, its like half the cost of upkeeping it. hit me back for comments.
do you have to have TBC on the RAF account for the benefits?